Porn Re-Uploading Part 1

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by Sascha, Jan 1, 2017.

  1. Sascha

    Sascha Active Member Staff Member

    The Road to Success with Porn

    "The Agent enters the scene. The target he was hunting for so long, finally infront of him. Pants down and the credit card loaded".

    What sounds like fanfiction, describes the basic principle of success with Porn. Create a desire which can only be fullified by one person. YOU, the affiliate. Ok maybe this introduction was a bit over the top. Anyway pants up, hands on the desk. Lets get through this.

    Porn Traffic, which I would prefer to call adult traffic, comes in different varieties. Each of its type has a different monetization method of choice and has small but really essential differences.

    1) Non Watermark Traffic

    One of the easiest ways - getting not banned wise - of generating traffic is with the desire of finding the different - and hopefully willingfull - opossite of sex. Even Tai Lopez is on the dating train. Why is this easier for the average joe? Well you dont need to worry about watermarking or mass uploading since you go for quality. Your leads will be most likely PPS (Pay Per Sale) 30-120$. If you traffic is good targeted you will get one conversion for 200-400 uniques.

    The way to trick your target into your dating site or the illusion of dating you is by putting either domains into the title, spamming comments or having a good looking - and with good looking I mean a realistic looking one - profile with either a "link" for private chat invitation or some other sort of linking. Realistic looking is really essential. Would you believe that you will find a 10/10 looking pornstar on a website that is gonna date you or hook up with you? Possible not. Both the title, comments and profile can be combined for reaching maximum exposure to your audience (a guy with his dick in his hand).

    2) Watermark Traffic

    In this category you dont need to worry about comments, titles or profiles - even tho you could use them to boost your traffic a little bit further. You can you the following Watermarking variations and/or combine them with each other:

    - Intro+Outro
    - Static Watermark
    - CTA (Call to Action) randomly in the video
    - Random appearing and slowly moving watermark

    Possible Problems:

    - A random CTA can cause a thumbnail trigger in the video encoding algorithm of the porn portal. Negative effect of that... instead of breasts they will see your logo or a part of your CTA. Would be good if we do brandawareness, but thats not what we are looking for. This will cause alot of video removals, since its instantly obvious what you are doing.
    - Random appearing watermarks can also cause a thumbnail trigger if they are not fadding good enough into the actaully movie playing. This will cause alot of video removals too.
    - Make sure the intro is right at the beginning, this wont cause a thumbnail trigger if it is under 10 seconds normaly.

    3) What will happen after the uploading

    First of all the videos will get encoded and approved manually or by the alogrithm of the portal. This highly depends on the approach of each individual portal. For example on yourporn and pornhub you be able to create an account easily and get your videos approved easily. Drawback, they also get removed fast. On the other hand at xvideos you will have a hard time to make a trusted account. If you uploaded your videos and they got approved they will normaly stick for a long time or even forever.

    Depending on the above tactics the following things can happen:

    - Your traffic is only generated by the "recent uploads" area of the niche/category you picked.
    - Your video will be picked up by other porn sites and by so called thumbnail porn sites.
    - Your video will actually rank and you will get alot of views naturally.
    - You force the above - ranking - artificially and you will get alot of views.

    While the recent uploads can still get you 10-20$ daily on each niche/category, i really dont recommend it if you are not running on full autopilot or you are not giving you lifetime spent any value. The general goal should be to rank and make videos stick. This is not always an easy task especially if you have no money for proxies. If this is the case go for high quality and not mass uploads. Try whatever you can to rank individual videos.

    If you got money for infrastructure, invest into local residential proxies with backports - which will deliver you a new IP every 10-30 minutes depending on provider and setup. You will use these IPs to sign up accounts. Why? Because they are residential IPs, which means that they are normaly trusted by the porn portals. Why is trust important? Because of Ghosting and Shadowbans.

    4) Ghosting and Shadowbans

    Especially on the PornHub networks and similiar ones, Ghosting and Shadowbans are a big issue if you are planning to do massuploads. What is a Shadowban? For example you will try to upload videos and they will fail to upload or not even get encoded most of the time. For high volumne uploaders I recommend either making fresh accounts and avoid uploading to accounts which are older then 3-5 hours, or make quality accounts with really good residential proxies (backport, hacked routers, botnets, etc.) and let them age. Depending on your goals and your timeframes a combination of both is a good approach for the serious IMer. If you were not able to upload to an account for 3-7 times its most likely shadowbanned and you can trash it.

    5) The fail of automation in Internet Marketing

    Automation? Saving time? Fail? Wait what... Yes and No. There is a general Problem in IM. Some of us have good or little programming skills and try to automate BEFORE we even get leads and a working concept. This is a big mistake. Not every area of IM is supposed to be dominated by natural skills. You should first find out if Porn/Adult IM is your niche or not. You need to understand the customer - the guy with a dick in his hand if you recall - and play tricks with them. I know Part 5 doesnt apply to alot of IMers but its a really essential point which needed to be covered. First get conversions, then scale. Not the other way around.

    6) Expectation VS Reality

    "Omg look at that booty i would love to see big booties twerking all day". > COME HERE AND SEE BIG BOOTIES SHAKING ALL DAY < *click*. Next is a website with skinny teens getting fucked by huge dicks. > EJECT <. As you can see your traffic needs to be laser targeted. Just as an example: When I started my first automated uploads, I generated 3500 uniques and made 0 conversions. Why? I was uploading random videos with a high views/rating ratio and did advertise a single niche in different other niches. After i changed that I got one conversion every 30-40 Uniques (PPL) or one conversion every 200-400 Uniques (PPS). Dont lie to the audience about your content, if you do that they might click, but they wont convert - which is what we are looking for right? So one laser targeted video can yield you as much as 100 random targeted videos. Quality and Targeting is king.

    7) Landing page

    Alot of people ask. "Hey should I use a LP?". That depends on your traffic and especially since your are an IMer - you are right? - you should test both variations anyway. A landing page can help increase the conversions on bad targeted traffic or even give you a perfect conversion ratio on already good targeted traffic. The landing page is your last option to play with their desires and their psychology before they will see your offer. Make them beg for being able to sign up. Get creative. Limited Slots, Limited Signup time, Fake Notifications of other people signing up, you call it. Your average user wont be really smart OR he/she is really desperate. Provide value or play with their desires. You have the choice.

    8) Sell them twice

    Try to get their E-Mail on the landing page. If they are stupid enough to signup once, they for sure will signup again a few weeks later or whenever their desire is big enough again. Especially if you are selling guides (aka ClickBank like products) the upsell value is totally there and you also should make use of it. If you dont make use of it, others will. Trick them, lie to them and get the lead! What if your signup is offline for now because so many men signed up that they portal will wait until enough women are availible again for each men? Imagine you will send them an E-Mail 3 days later. They will buy it like they havent seen a women in 2 years and want to get laid fucking right now.

    9) Bots and Tools

    For the testing and traffic testing phase, small time safers are enough to begin with. Encoding and Watermarking Software/Bots are essential for this. Indexing porn videos for views/likes/keywords research. Finding popular videos and compare content, title and any other factors that play into that role. Creating accounts via Selenium or Sockets will be a huge timesaver and combined with residential proxies it will even let you grow a big account reserve - in case the backport proxy provider doesnt get flagged.

    10) Why is testing so important?

    From my expirience I have talked to people making between 70 and 400$ daily on Porn-Reuploading/Uploading, most of them went for quality. Some of them developed tools on the way to be more efficient. But content picking and niche research was and will always be the critical essence for making a decent income in this IM niche.

    TO BE CONTINUED IN PART 2
    http://botsource.org/threads/porn-re-uploading-part-2.40/
     
    Last edited: Jun 2, 2017
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  2. Matt-ia

    Matt-ia New Member

    Ayy thank you for this detailed guide Sascha!
     
  3. Steven Cutting

    Steven Cutting New Member

    Good effort bro I cannot wait until part two however as per usual I always question but we all understand I am here to help. Constructive criticism is key OP :p

    I see no spoon and we know people reading this shit need feeding my man!

    You covered soooooo little as a porn re-uploading guide. I won't even provide enough Q's here but mate...very little about proxies, content, where to get it, suggestions on what to promote, too little about software, some about watermarking and nothing about titles and descriptions or even website or most importantly; automation.

    Furthermore absolutely nothing about how to monetize this shit??? o_O Cams/Brazzers/E-Whore...

    -Well done though Sascha, you are a genius and we are all here for you man and appreciate you lots but nobody's perfect and I don't want anybody in our community thinking I am pursuing negativity ;)
     
  4. Sascha

    Sascha Active Member Staff Member

    Thanks for the feedback, I will try to cover the mentioned topics better since you are right! Needs more spoon :D
     
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  5. bizu

    bizu New Member

    Thanks for the guide. I have also tried this method but with little success. Unless you upload min 200 - 300 vids per day this method does not seem to worth the resources you put into it. Could you maybe share some tips regarding ranking videos in order to get more views ?
     
  6. Sascha

    Sascha Active Member Staff Member

    @bizu

    Ranking videos can be a complicated process. The best tipp is to look at the competition and what they are doing.

    Take a closer look at "dates25.com". That guy is using some smart methods already.
     
    Last edited: Jun 2, 2017